I've been having a long chat with someone who is very well known and respected in the world of science and sacred geometry, but he is keeping a low profile so I wont say who he is.

I love the Golden Mean so some of the things he said . . well have a look.

He has this to say about the Golden Spiral and i wondered if anyone wanted to comment on it?

Firstly I asked:
What is it that the Fibonacci does not have that keeps you from respecting it equally amongst other spirals?

And his response:
It's nonsense. It's trivial. It's almost useless.

There is a whole world of really intriguing forms. Forms based on the Fibonacci numbers are just not interesting, because they're so trivial.

I don't mind if others are fascinated by the wallpaper, but I'm not. There is nothing wrong with the Fibonacci numbers, other than that they're "a dime a dozen". The whole thing is just plain wacko. Why people are so focused on this triviality is beyond me.

He are some other snippets:

1. The golden proportion is sterile, because it's narcissistic. It always circles itself in its own self-image, just like Narcissus in the famous myth of Greek godly mental illness. Narcissism, self-centeredness (as represented by the logarithmic spirals, including the golden spiral), is the antithesis of maturity and spiritual growth. It attracts children whose world includes only themselves and
their parents.

2. The golden spiral is sterile because it is _completely_
symmetrical, and never changes. It's the opposite of life, which is why it only shows up in the dead traces of where life used to be. It's not productive. Life is extraordinarily asymmetrical. I'm not referring to the fact that we have left-right symmetry and two arms, two eyes, etc. I'm talking
about the process of life, not a photograph. The process of life is utterly asymmetrical, starting from a helpless single fertile cell, and growing into billions of cells of an utterly unique being with free will. This is truly "the one and the many". It's exactly the opposite of the "gilded" frauds being promoted on the Internet.

3. The golden proportion is not either enormously important, nor worthless. It's a number. It's one of an infinite number of interesting numbers. It's not important in any particular way, compared to many other numbers, and numbers are not important at all compared to what they represent.

On the scale of importance, if healthy, natural cooking is a 10, and McDonald's Burgerbilge is a 1, then the golden proportion is a 2. Okay? It ain't going to poison you, but it doesn't provide much nutrition, either.

4. The nutburger that wrote the book on the golden proportion for Dover Publications was a religious fanatic. This kind of pseudo-scientific nonsense has been selling like hotcakes for about a century and a half since someone first decided to call the "narcissistic" spiral, golden. (Prior to the mid-1800's, neither the proportion nor the spiral were called "golden". The name was because fraudsters were trying to "turn lead into gold". Apparently, this con still works, because there are plenty of people on the Internet who are buying it. It's just plain sad.)

5. The idea of "a most beautiful proportion" is itself simply not true. This doesn't stop artists from believing in it, but it does frustrate people who know more.

And then he says . . . .

There are extraordinary beauties in mathematics, but you have to refine your eyes first, in order to see them. Most mathematicians that I know see mathematics as a kind of music, perhaps the highest form of art because of its extraordinary beauty. (Most non-mathematicians don't see any of this. But then, people who are tone-deaf don't enjoy music.)